Curse

Jessyi · Oct 08, 2009, 04:08 PM // 16:08

I unequivocally demand that the Xunlai Tournament House be returned to full working order immediately. Failing this, I expect updates no more than one (1) week apart.

~ Dan ~ · Oct 08, 2009, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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Originally Posted by headlesshobbs

You know if you guys really wanted XTH fixed that badly, you could throw a couple thousand $$$ their way and put some people on it.

Because anet lacks money? What?

JR · Oct 08, 2009, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

Because anet lacks money? What?

WoW cost roughly $63m to launch, including marketing and deployment. I assume Guild Wars 2 is going to be somewhere in that ballpark. Hardly pocket change.

Yawgmoth · Oct 08, 2009, 04:47 PM // 16:47

It was epic fail the day it started.

LoL @ people who bought lots of accounts to abuse XTH. No free money for you so we see lots of QQ.

In fact I got a buch of accounts to abuse XTH aswell and did that for a couple months, but I feel it was completely wrong and despite the free money I feel really happy it's not coming back anytime soon. XTH was the thing that made me practically quit actively playing the game, it took away the last little incentive to play I had.

XTH should never come back, at least unless it's rewards are completely changed (to something untradeable).
I hope the idea of giving lots of free money to owners of multiple accounts dies in hell and won't return in GW2, or I may not be buying that game at all (would much rather play a subscription mmo than an undercover F2P with great advantages to those who pay extra).

Another Felldspar · Oct 08, 2009, 05:50 PM // 17:50

I'd love to see it come back. I enjoyed making the picks, checking the results, watching on observe, trying to figure out which HB'er was which, picking up the reward points and getting a guild group to head to the chest and see who got what. It was fun. Personally, I never bought a second account, never sold a key and never got an expensive drop out of the chest. It wasn't a money fount, but it was fun. I hope they manage to work it back into the game.

beanerman_99 · Oct 08, 2009, 06:02 PM // 18:02

Here is a solution to the OP who gives a BS reason about it bridgin PvE and PvP and all that nonsense.

Bring it back but have NO reward, especially frickin Zkeys. Or how about the best prize you can get would be 100g.

Lets do that and see how many people continue to make picks and support the XTH.

IMO the only reason people make threads about wanting the XTH to come back is so they can continue to abuse it with their multiple accounts.

Good riddance to the XTH

Premium Unleaded · Oct 08, 2009, 06:02 PM // 18:02

Lol @ the QQ in this thread.

If they bring back XTH, then they should at the very least make zkeys untradable or reduce the gains by a lot.

garethporlest18 · Oct 08, 2009, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by upier

The problem is that PvE lost it's reward system. There is nothing that makes you feel like a unique snowflake.
And not only does PvP have a system of unique snowflakes, the PvE unique snowflake system disappeared because it was shared with PvP.

And that's the core issue.
The issue of the system being implemented poorly is something we get to along the road.

The PvE lost it's reward system when Nightfall came out. Now no one will be a unique snowflake. Furthermore, Anet doesn't want anyone to be unique in this game, I thought you would have figured that out by now.

As for me, I don't care if it comes back, I rather it didn't and they spend their time on something better.

headlesshobbs · Oct 08, 2009, 06:34 PM // 18:34

When I read the part about zaishen coins being used in place of tournament rewards points, I stopped caring for this to come back so I prefer that gets updated and done with.

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Originally Posted by beanerman_99

IMO the only reason people make threads about wanting the XTH to come back is so they can continue to abuse it with their multiple accounts.

Also this.

ll Jamie ll · Oct 08, 2009, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Make zkeys untradable if it does come back any time soon.

If they arn't planning on making zkeys untradable then don't bring it back.

I, personally would like it to come back JUST for the zchest, but make the keys untradable.

Longasc · Oct 08, 2009, 07:19 PM // 19:19

I did not play GW for ages.
But I bothered to log in to the XTH on three accounts every month, randomly pick names and... make quite a lot of cash this way.

ANet was dumb to bring even more gold into the game with this system, that also basically rewarded people for guessing bad and wrong, as you could hardly fail to win anything with this system.

At least they should have gotten the idea that they need something better than this for GW2. The general idea is not bad, after all.

Martin Firestorm · Oct 08, 2009, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

XTH was the thing that made me practically quit actively playing the game, it took away the last little incentive to play I had.

What??? Was your incentive not being given free crap that you don't have to receive?

own age myname · Oct 08, 2009, 08:41 PM // 20:41

I hope it doesn't come back, if does make it give zcoins for a reward.

WinterSnowblind · Oct 08, 2009, 09:55 PM // 21:55

Most of it's already been said, but I feel I should throw in my thoughts as well, just to make sure everyone gets the point.

But yeah, although it made it very easy to make money, it was something that brought me back to the game each month. Since it went down, I haven't logged on for months, and am unlikely to do so again until Halloween. With the lack of new content, the monthly "wellfare check" at least gave us something to do, even if it was just buying new armour sets or grinding towards titles for the HoM.

Daesu · Oct 08, 2009, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

XTH should never come back, at least unless it's rewards are completely changed (to something untradeable).
I hope the idea of giving lots of free money to owners of multiple accounts dies in hell and won't return in GW2, or I may not be buying that game at all (would much rather play a subscription mmo than an undercover F2P with great advantages to those who pay extra).

Frankly I dont care about giving away free money to people of multiple accounts. I am already getting free money from my multiple accounts from Nicholas and other means. Now that GW1 is coming to an end, do I really care if someone else is getting another rare weapon with the same stats as mine and just looks different?

But XTH reward should stay in PvP only since it is PvP centric. In other words, Balthazar's Factions and TRP should not be tradable for zkeys ever! Zkeys are PvE centric and should be reserved for completing PvE challenges only. The two should be seperate, otherwise people would compare PvP challenges to PvE challenges and argue about fairness when it is two different worlds in the first place!

Clone · Oct 08, 2009, 11:09 PM // 23:09

I'm somewhat torn. I never really liked the idea of the monthly Guild Wars welfare check in the form of ZKeys. On the other hand, am even less of a fan of Zkey related title tracks that most would never get close to maxing.

In the end, I think the main issue is how ham-handed anet was with this thing. Regardless of whether it was a good idea or not, it was broken more often than not, and its long absence implies they have no idea how to fix it. So, in the sense that it was there, it was broken, and it didn't get fixed, I'd have to call it a failure.

jray14 · Oct 09, 2009, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by king swift

Is this what GW2 is going to be like?

No, not until GW3 or whatever they call the next one is announced

What really surprises me is that they're having so much trouble with something so relatively simple. Come on, a run-of-the-mill database programmer could do this in a few weeks from scratch without even dealing with existing spaghetti code!

I wouldn't mind if they came out with something like "Sorry, but we realized we made a mistake in the way we implemented the XTH" or "We decided it's too low of a priority" or whatnot. But to keep on stringing us along is just silly.

BTW I'm all about GW welfare, lol. I really liked being able to shell a little extra RL cash to legally get some extra IG money. It's not like it put me at an advantage over others. I just like to play barbie with my heroes and use a lot of lockpicks.

Villnar Shadowbane · Oct 09, 2009, 01:13 AM // 01:13

Screw XTH, Just make double Zaishen Reward Weekend.

Reward Points should be given out after achieving a tournament win, title rank up, or consecutive wins. Z-keys if made untradeable will make too many people angry. I don't think anet wants to do that anymore then they have.

Vilaptca · Oct 09, 2009, 01:24 AM // 01:24

I'll be honest I want it back for the free money now that I play again.

Esprit · Oct 09, 2009, 01:44 AM // 01:44

People are talking about abusing Xunlai with multiple accounts...

How is this abuse?

You are using a service that Anet provided. You are not botting or spoofing items, or whatever else is illegal.

So you get more keys because you have more accounts, what a big abuse of the system that is! /sarcasm

Xunlai benefited Anet, because people actually went to buy more accounts. Maybe it was an insignificant amount, maybe not, but it got Anet more sales. Sounds like a success to me. Anet is probably sad that Xunlai turned out to be so buggy. There's nothing like building up an architecture that has a flaw at the base.